Erap Estrada and Noynoy Aquino chicken out!
I like watching debates between Presidential candidates more than reading their campaign propaganda or write ups about their latest activities in newspapers which actually be crafted by public relations professionals and advertising gurus in cooperation with members of the “friendly” press.
You get to see how well the candidates themselves answer questions in real time. You don’t see them through the wall of hype created by their political ads.
Anyway, let me just re-post in full the announcement for the Carlos P. Romulo Foundation for Peace and Development debate organized in cooperation with ANC and the Asian Institute of Management.
Presidential Policy Debate Kicks Off
Thursday, January 14 at AIM
The Carlos P. Romulo Foundation for Peace and Development is pleased to announce that the first comprehensive debate on domestic and foreign policy among presidential candidates in the May elections will take place on Thursday, January 14 at the Asian Institute of Management (AIM).
Sen. Richard Gordon, Sen. Manuel Villar and former Defense Secretary Gilbert Teodoro will participate in the two-hour forum. Two other candidates – former President Joseph Estrada and Sen. Benigno Aquino III – were invited to join the discussion as early as October last year, but they declined.
Organized by the Romulo Foundation in cooperation with ABS-CBN News Channel (ANC) and AIM, the forum will focus on the broad theme of “Philippine Credibility and Competitiveness in the World”, and seek policy responses from the candidates on five main issues:
1.The Maguindanao massacre and the wider challenge of peace in the Philippine South – If elected President, what policies and programs will the candidate pursue to stop the problem of private armies, resolve the conflict in Mindanao and Sulu, and bring stability and development to the region?
2. Philippine foreign relations and international security – What significance does the candidate attach to Philippine relations with the world, what countries and regions are the most important, and should the nation be involved or not in the international struggle against terrorism?
3. Philippine economy and international economic relations – What policies will the candidate adopt to strengthen and grow the national economy, expand foreign trade and investments, and what importance does he attach to key economic organizations such as WTO, IMF, WB and APEC?
4. Migrant workers – What policies will the candidate adopt with respect to Filipino labor migration, the welfare of OFWs, Philippine relations with labor-receiving countries, and international conventions for the protection and rights of migrant workers?
5. Philippine competitiveness in the world – What specific policies and programs will the candidate adopt to reverse the erosion of Philippine international competitiveness in the world and address the problem of corruption?
“The primary purpose of the forum is to elicit from each candidate his specific policy ideas and solutions to major problems and challenges of national life today,” says Ambassador Roberto R. Romulo, Chairman of the CPR Foundation. “In this way, the forum will assist voters in reaching a decision on who to vote for.”
The forum will be moderated by Ricky Carandang of ANC. A question panel composed of Ambassador Rodolfo Severino, head of ASEAN Studies Center, Institute of Southeast Asian Studies, Philippine Star Editor/Columnist Amy Pamintuan, and CNN correspondent Jaime Floro Cruz will take turns in directing questions to the candidates.
Under the rules approved by the representatives of the candidates and the sponsoring organizations, the panel will question the candidates on the five main issues during the first hour of the forum. Each candidate will be given two minutes to state his position on each issue.
In the second segment, there will be an open forum participated in by both the question panel and the audience. Questions will be directed by them to the candidates individually.
In the final segment, the three candidates will each deliver a three-minute closing statement to sum up their policy positions and make their appeal to Filipino voters.
Organizers of the forum said the event will be attended by the business and diplomatic communities, the media and the general public. At least 20 ambassadors are expected to attend. Because of limited seats, interested parties are enjoined to reserve their seats early. Registration can be made via email: reyes@pfgc.ph or telephone 885-0921
The forum will be broadcast live by ANC on cable TV and ABS Studio 23 on terrestrial TV. “This will enable the Filipino citizenry all over the country to watch the event,” says Ambassador Romulo.
Puwede raw bang mag-proxy ang mga die-hard Noynoyans (sounds more like “Annoyance” lol) gaya ni mlq3, Reyna Elena, Mr. Esposo, etc?
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PinoyBuzz Reply:
January 6th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
inisip ko nga yan eh. baka pwede si boy abunda mag-proxy para kay noy… pareho silang may salamin at pareho silang… kwan… makintab.
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Basilio Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
Just a question, Pinoy Buzz? Aren’t you a gordon henchman? What are you doing in a Gibo blog? The fact that you have banded together to gang up on a single candidate shows that you see each other’s bosses as non-contenders in the election. I pity you, Farol. You’re supporting a candidate who has absolutely no hope of winning. It must be so frustrating. No wonder you’re commiserating with the gibo people. You’re in the same boat.
You and your friends can churn out all the negative propaganda you can on Noynoy. Honestly, I don’t see why Noynoyans as you call them even bother with you. I don’t know why I bother with you. You’re just a pain in the neck but that’s all you are. No matter what you do the yellow movement is just too big. Its ideology too big for your peabrain to grasp.
Lastly, if you think that your hardwork is making large enough ripples in the grand scheme of things, you have a bloated sense of your importance. You provide great entertainment— like a worm who thinks he can take on a lion, and by lion I don’t mean Noynoy. I mean the entire movement that supports him.
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bp Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 1:45 pm
basilio,
a gibo blog? this one? i wonder where you got that idea. you better read first before you say such things. unlike you, i’m still holding off on making a final decision for the simple reason that i want to base mine on the right factors.
your attempt at painting some kind of conspiracy scenario is funny at best.
Basilio Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Wow, Farol, aren’t we being defensive! I only said you were commiserating with the gibo people because you’re in the same boat. I never imagined anything about a conspiracy but now that you mention it…
bp Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
basilio,
it’s bp the admin you’re talking to not paul farol.
anyway, defensive? not really. just stating the fact that this blog is not for gibo or any other candidate. you need not mention the word it’s in the context and tone of your comment. at least man up to what you wrote.
bp Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
basilio,
btw, considering how things are going now here on the internet, i’m not inclined to just accept that you are genuinely pro-noynoy. for all i know you’re one of those “double agents” tasked with making other camps look bad by pretending to be one of them and doing really stupid things on the internet like what you’re doing. you should know that a few of those “double agents” have already been outed. you might be next. that is if you are one. but if you’re really a noynoy fan, why not try to be more fact-based with your comments, ok. don’t go reacting to each and every noynoy criticism with nonsensical mumbo jumbo.
if i may advise you, don’t come in here with ultra-pro-noynoy crap to get a rise out of anyone here. in the first place, it’s already an established fact that there are rabid fanatics for every candidate. it just so happens that noynoy seems to have been cursed with the biggest share.
pinoybuzz Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 3:18 pm
Basilio,
“You provide great entertainment— like a worm who thinks he can take on a lion, and by lion I don’t mean Noynoy. I mean the entire movement that supports him.”
Oh, the Noynoy movement is a lion? Are you sure? Why does its members act like JACKASSES?
pinoybuzz Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Basilio,
I think you’re just acting out for your master.
Basilio Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Oh I’m yellow through and through. You seem to be the one having an identity crisis.
bp Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 3:58 pm
basilio,
yeah, sure.
PinoyBuzz Reply:
January 8th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
BP,
I guess basilio is really a yellow cult drone, check out noypi-ako.com, there is a basilio nick there
Bwahahaha! Sumuko din si Noynoy. Umamin din na hindi niya kayang makipag-debate. Umamin din na wala siyang alam. Pustahan tayo, gagawa yan ng dahilan kung bakit hindi siya makakapunta. ‘Wag niyo na kaming lokohin Abnoy. Ikaw lang at ang mga galamay mo ang naniniwala sa mga sinasabi mo.
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grabe naman kayo Reply:
January 18th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Wag naman kayong ganyan! Wala na ngang alam ang tao, niloloko nyo pa! Sabi nya nandun sya sa La Union during that time, at least dun hindi daw nakakatakot ang atmosphere at hindi sya mapapahiya. Kung kayo nasa kalagayan nya, di ba gagawin nyo rin ang ginawa nya??! Di ba?? lol
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Erap ..i can understand him if he chicken out..but noynoy??gee!!! he should attend for us to decide if he really deserves the presidency….kawawa naman ang Pinoy..or baka takot ang talaga..why not si Kris na lang ang umatend…hehehehe,,, maybe dahil mataas na masyado an survey ratings nya hindi na nya kailangan ang debate…bwahahaahahaha
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From the start, I’ve been saying only Gibo, Villar, and Gordon are worth considering in this election. At last we will see what it would have been like if Noynoy did not decide to run and turn our presidential elections into a showbiz joke. Noynoy chickening out of this debate is a victory for the thinking Filipinos.
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Hindi pa huli kung sasali si Noynoy..Magpakalalake naman sya..Kung totoong para sa kabutihan ng sambayanang Pilipino ang pagtakbo nya eh dapat malaman natin ang kanyang posisyon sa mga issues sa debate..Dito natin malalaman sa forum na to kung mey kakayahan ba sya..Eh baka sa economic issues di nya kayang magdecision at kung saan sya papanig..Halimbawa anong pipiliin nya..murang patatas galing china o ang mahal na patatas galing Baguio..Simpling tanong lang po eto..Dito natin masusubok kung makabayan nga cya. Please Mr.President-to-be umatend ka na…
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this is quite disappointing. i think these candidates are starting to realize that live debates are hurting their campaign. there is a huge surge of membership in gibos fan page after the ANC debate.
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Go Pilipinas! Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 12:16 am
Those candidates not attending probably believe in the saying “Less talk, less mistakes”. Or in this case, “No talk, no mistakes”. That’s why they are SO playing safe becuase the more they open their mouths, the more the people are able to decide against voting for them.
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caloy Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
curious as to why the noynoy camp choose to let this opportunity scape them. they are usually the one who screams for platform oriented campaign strategy.
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bp Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
caloy,
have they really called for a platform-oriented campaign? i’m not sure about that. all i’ve heard from them is S-incerity, H-onesty, I-ntegrity, T-rustworthiness, though not necessarily in that order but still the same crap.
anyway, i heard that noynoy may actually participate. that would be good.
caloy Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
it was aired i think last months in his interview with tv5. let be double check and i’ll get back to you when i find the clip.
mark Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
Really now? Would you like to go visit all their FB pages and see for yourself?
Paniwalang paniwala kayo kay Paul Farol eh nasipa nga yan sa asiancorrespondent.com.
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jujubees Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
is it true na ginamit ni NA ang dating account ng nanay niya sa FB ( as in pinalitan lang yung name) kaya ganun kadami ang supporters 200k++ sa page niya coz that supporters were for his mom’s dati pa??? kaloka talaga if it’s true…
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pinoybuzz Reply:
January 15th, 2010 at 7:20 am
As it turns out, hindi nga pumunta si Noynoy Aquino sa Presidential policy debate.
I won’t hold it against him personally, but a lot of intelligent kids out there were rather disappointed.
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Evelio B. Obeso Reply:
January 15th, 2010 at 1:01 pm
I was expecting that PB..Those kind of questions especially the one asked from UK is so hard to answer in the person of Noynor or Erap. It would be better for them to shy away from that forum so as not to be embarrassed and make the event a comedy of errors. Sana huwag na lang talaga silang sumali sa darating pang mga debate/forum..Magaling lang sila sa entertainment/concert/sayawan/atbp.para umiwas sa mga problema ng ating bayan.Ang sa kanila ay saka na yang problema pag nakaupo na.Kawawang Inang Bayan natin.
hay grabe.. limang isyu at tanong pa lang yan, wala ng sagot si erap at noynoy.. panu pa ang sangkatutak na problema at isyung haharapin nila pag pangulo na sila… tsktsk.. oo nga im sure magdadahilan na naman ang mga yan.. tsktsk.. napakaimportante pa naman ng mga debates dahil dun mo makikita ang kapasidad at decision-making ng mga presidentiables.. imbes na puro artista at commercials ang iharap nila sa tao, dapat ang sarili at kakayahan nilang mamuno! noynoy erap chicken! chicken! tiktilaok!
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Basta debate ang pinaguusapan, talo si Noynoy kahit anong gawin niya. Kung sasali siya, makikita ng tao na wala siyang alam. Kung hindi siya sasali, umaamin siya na hindi niya kaya. Yan ang nangyayari pag kumakandidato ka na wala ka namang kakayahan. Kahit manalo ka pa, wala pa ring respeto ang tao sayo.
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well…what can you say…tahimik ata ang yellow camp…no response?
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Dilaw na Mantsa Reply:
January 6th, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Nagpipiyesta pa rin yata sila sa pagkakatanggal kay Paul Farol sa Asian Correspondent.
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PinoyBuzz Reply:
January 6th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
magsaya na sila ngayon, dusa tayong lahat kapag nanalo ang manok nila.
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Dilaw na Mantsa Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
I have my visa ready if that happens.
HAla, hindi pala pupunta si Nyoy ( as fondly called by Kris) malamang hindi i ere ng ANC yan! hahahahha kse yung manok nila chicken out na! kse palapit na campaign period at ayon sa mga adviser ni Nyoy (as fondly called by Kris) eh pinagsabihan sya na wag nang aattend ng mga forum at baka lalong siyang masira! Ay sus!!
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eto na yung sinasabi nang iba na the moment of truth, etong mga panahon na to, tapos si noynoy hindi attend? hahahaha, ang gaganda pa naman ng issues na ittackle, bakit takot kaya si noynoy umattend? kse dignified ang mga magtatanong sa current issues? pero tingin ko kung si TED FAILON ang magtatanong malamang umattend yan si Nyoy! hahahahaha, eto na ang mahirap pag nabuyo ka lang ng mga galamay mo eto na san ka tatakbo at nakakahiya nang umatras
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Thanks for this information. I, too, have been a fan of debates way back when I am still studying. I would even debate myself for some reasons, and sometimes my alter ego wins.
It is really funny in its literal sense that the two candidates, Noynoy and Erap, declined this invitation.
Looking at it, probably they have figured out that whether they attend or not this “comprehensive debate,” it will just add doubts on their names.
And so they refused the invitation..
Because less talk is less mistake.
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Ax,
No thanks necessary.
I do hope the organizers of this debate make sure that it lives up to its claim.
I hope to see Villar answering tough questions head-on and doesn’t resort to side-stepping or deflection tactics.
I want to hear more about Gordon’s idea about asking for a debt moratorium. It’s really one of those unimaginable things you hear off. Just before I resigned, he was talking about building something like a Panama canal in Zamboanga’s Pangil bay.
I want to hear more from Gibo too. His performance during ANC’s Harapan was surprising.
Anyway, I do hope ANC has the whole thing transcribed this time because it’s really easy to miss things that are said verbally.
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Ax Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
We share the same sentiments on these three candidates.
I have high expectations on ANC. I think this debate will either break or make each candidates..
And for Noynoy and Erap who’ll not be attending, this will be one of their biggest mistake with regard on their 2010 political/electoral decisions. After all, ANC is a global network.
Global or worldwide. No need to explain further.
(Ow, I still think a ‘thanks’ is necessary.)
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Dilaw na Mantsa Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 8:05 pm
Actually, it was during a forum aired by ANC when I finally made my choice candidate.
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Maybe Noynoy decided not to join the debate because the questions are very specific. He’ll have a hard time giving answers that begin with “ang sabi ng nanay ko”. It’s also harder for him to bash Gloria with these questions, except for the first question about Maguindanao. His trademark litany about evil and corruption is also harder to work in. Walang matitira sa limitadong spiels niya.
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hmmm. sounds interesting. i would love to go to this event.
i think debates like this are needed for us to choose on who will be our president is. you will really see the difference on who’s talking abstract and who’s talking concrete on their plan and goals for this country. i really want to see what their visions for this country are.
but lawyers like gibo and gordon have their advantages in debates and forums like this
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PinoyBuzz Reply:
January 6th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
dude,
gordon isn’t just a lawyer, he was also an executive… one with the longest track record.
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It will truly be an embarrassing event if Noynoy refuse to join the debate. Estrada can be excuse because he is considered a “Nuisance Candidate”. Estrada is considered unqualified and unfit to be president. But, I just cannot believe Noynoy hides under her sister’s skirt by refusing to attend the debate. Maybe, Kris can be a proxy for him. This signifies he does not have what it takes to lead the country. A true leader must face any animosity or any challenges that lies ahead. Nevertheless, that’s ok, he looks stupid as he look on TV anyway. I hope Noynoy’s supporters should wake up and realize what kind of candidate they are supporting? Imagine, an unqualified president is running the country? Just like an untrained pilot is flying a commercial plane without taking any flying lessons. Would you board that plane?
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PinoyBuzz Reply:
January 6th, 2010 at 8:59 pm
One of Noynoy’s supporters on twitter, @bluevill, said this:
@momblogger He is no fool to backout without a valid reason. Just wait for official press release.
@momblogger ?? f romulo is perceived to be leaning to Noy, what will people say isfNoy joins the debate. Damn if you do. Damn f u dont?
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To defend yourself and your ideologies in a debate is one of the best way of showing to the voting public that you are indeed the president they need.
Dito mawawala ang hocus-pocus ng advertisment at slogans.
This is a good venue for Noynoy to show na hindi lang ang yumao nyang parents ang kaya niyang ibida sa publiko. The debate is good venue to show that he is not abnoy gaya ng bintang sa kanya ng mga kalaban niya.
If he believes in his ability, then he should join this debate.
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I think that Noynoy supporter in twitter (bluevill) is confused. Alberto Romulo is the one who supports Noynoy, not Roberto Romulo who is organizing this debate. Bluevill’s excuse (“if romulo is perceived to be leaning to Noy, what will people say isfNoy joins the debate. Damn if you do. Damn f u dont?”) is pathetic. ABS-CBN doesn’t bother to hide that it is leaning towards Noynoy, but Noynoy still joins their debates and openly displays his codigo. Eto pa kaya?
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caloy Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 12:05 pm
the codigo, was really a red flag. what other surprises does noy noy have in his pocket? i guess we won’t be able to find out since they have put a gag on their candidate.
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too bad for noy.it only shows how incompetent he is.kala ko ba LABAN??
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I think dahil dito, mejo nakikita ko na si Noynoy as magiging papet lang ng kung sinong taong nagtatago behind the curtains dahil parang sumusunod lang siya sa mga payo ng mga taong nakapaligid sa kanya.
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Excuse #2 of Bluevill, the Noynoy supporter on Twitter:
“Re: Romulo devate Noynoy has sortie n N. Luzon but will be at the debate this Sat.”
Um, the candidates were invited to the debate October of last year, according to the press release. Was Noynoy’s sortie already scheduled since October?
Think again, Bluevill. What’s Excuse #3?
(Excuse #1 was: “if romulo is perceived to be leaning to Noy, what will people say isfNoy joins the debate. Damn if you do. Damn f u dont?”)
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The people have long been the judge of who is going to be the holder of the number one post in the Philippine politics, and that is NoyNoy, who is just going to wait when he moves in to the Palace. It’s just a waist of his precious time to debate with the other “WANABEES.”
Forget about any future bebates, he is already the replacement of Gloria no matter what—people of the nation have decided.
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pinoybuzz Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 8:44 am
Victor,
We happen to think that debates are important because it’ll help the people make a better decision as they will have a better idea about who the candidate is, what his capabilities are, and what his plans for the country are.
Debates are actually more like simulation exercises, where the candidates are asked to answer to issues which they may face when they are elected. How they perform in debates is indicative of how they will perform in office.
It is one of the many tests that allow voters to scrutinize the candidate.
Would you rather that we elect a President just based on his popularity and political ads? That’s what happened with Joseph Ejercito Estrada back in 1998 and we should have learned out lesson.
Are you saying we should make Noynoy another Erap?
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Ax Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 7:09 pm
Or in technical explanation,
debate forums are one of the many ways to prove themselves (candidates for presidency) if they are worth it to the people of the Philippines.
There is no doubt that the people will decide for the country’s future. I won’t argue on that.
But to say without hesitation that Noynoy will be the next president is way too much early. It is not even campaign period yet.
There is a 100+ days to go.
And surprises happens everyday.
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Zari Reply:
January 28th, 2010 at 9:43 pm
You’ve got to be kidding right? Humahabol si Villar (he’s biggest contender).
None of the other candidates have a chance to win agains tnoynoy other than manny v. And besides, manny has already proven his great management skills over the years.
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Victor, you are a typical Noynoy fan so I will ignore your spelling mistakes. Your lack of interest in debates is the reason why Noynoy die-hards like you can’t explain why Noynoy is your choice. Pati kayo, hindi niyo alam. Kasi para sa inyo, he doesn’t need to explain his plans. (Does he even have any?) Nagpapatunay lang ito na ang paniwala niyo kay Noynoy ay wala ngang basehan. Kaya pala pag tinatanong kayo kung ano ang mga balak ni Noynoy, wala kayong sagot, kaya cut and paste na lang kayo ng slide ng survey sabay bigkas “Basta Noynoy ako!” Gawain ba ito ng edukadong tao?
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basta noynoy ako! Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 9:33 am
:-O
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Re: Victor and co.
Lo!!! Have we lost critical thinkers in this country? Sure, we do not like Gloria, but do we have to just give the presidential seat in a platter to Noynoy who has no visible direction where this country is leading to!!! Should I rely on his battlecry of S-incerity, H-onesty, I-ntegrity, T-rustworthiness!!! Other candidates, likewise also have those characteristics and they have loads of them. Should we not look for a president who has a proven track records to back up his candidacy. In looking for a job, your records are scrutinized, right? So, if you’re not qualified you get junked. Wake up man, are you a robot or something?
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nakakasuya naman tong ibang panatiko ni noynoy,. for the first time, sana naman gamitin nyo ang utak nyo.. wag nyo ng depensahan at bigyan pa ng alibi ang hindi pag attend ni noynoy sa debate. Kung may alam sya, at kung talagang ipinaglalaban nya ang pilipinas, aattend sya upang ipahayag sa taong bayan ang kanyang plano at plataporma pag sya’y nahalal bilang presidente..
nakakalungkot lang na hindi nyo naiintindihan ang mga ganitong bagay. sa inyo dapat isisi na pati kaming matitinong botante ay nadadamay sa pagpili nyo ng inutil na lider…
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NoyNoy Palaboy. He’s (removed by admin: let’s not go there please) indeed and the one who supports him are brain damage and no sense at all.
Just look at his face, is he the one to represent the country? All of his thoughts are scripted and he cannot create his own statement…that’s the legacy of this man. Iwan ko kung tao to sya.
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Evelio B. Obeso Reply:
January 7th, 2010 at 3:56 pm
Hello Bong…Please don’t use the monicker Palaboy for Noynoy because it might affect the carreer of my nephews.Hahaha..Actually the known palaboy of today is MOYMOY PALABOY the sons of my sister(deceased)..I know these guys have lot of sense and their brains are efficiently working, not like the one you described of.Their faces will make your worries gone not like Noynoy, for sure will make your day gloomy..Moymoy palaboy has millions of intelligent followers all over the world..I don’t know yet of Noynoy..Thank you my friend, we ride on the same boat and same horizon..Godbless.
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N.Aquino is indeed the FRONT-RUNNER.
FRONT ng mga kasama nyang ATAT ATAT na makaposisyon sa uli.
RUNNER dahil dyan sa magaling.
BOBOto mo pa ba yan?
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Attend or not, Boy Noynoy will never give a coherent answer and will just stick to domestic issues like baby-sitting and watching The Simpsons. I like the “Annoyance” of @dilaw na mantsa. B-)
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Bong, is this supposed to be a song or something?)
Dadadahhhillll..sa aking magulang Tatatakkbooo ako bilang Panguuuulo ng Pilipinas…..iyong din ang sabi ng ate kung si KRisssssss…takot ako sa kanya kasi dami nyang lalaki…
Ai, di kooo pala ate yun…kapatid kung bunso pala…cincia nakalimutan ko….tsaka kay kuya Boy Abunda, malapit tayo magingggg kapariha…..malapit narin akong makalbo tulad mo… kuya Boy….dala ka ng stuff toys ha pag maka punta ka sa amin…
- NoyNoy Aquino
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I think Noynoy should attend this debate. Eventually, I think he will be forced to attend this.
In our recent broadcast at Sentro ng Katotohanan we said that people of integrity are clear on issues and policies. One cannot say he has integrity when he docks questions thrown at him, especially on policy!
His integrity is at stake here.
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Basilio, lion ba ‘ka mo ang yellow movement? Agree ako diyan. Para ngang mga hayop na mababangis, pero hindi pwedeng tawagin na tao, kasi hindi nag-iisip. Herd mentality at animal instinct lang ang umiiral.
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I think it’s unfair to call anyone for chickening out on a debate. The last time people are excused from namecalling is high school. Senior year nga kakahiya na if you’re still resorting to name calling.
I’m by no means a Noynoy “fan” (undecided voter, although Aquino is on my shortlist), but like Pinoybuzz (if he’s telling the truth, although judging by his behavior and his older blog posts I think he’s made up his mind) we have to mete out the facts. Matagal pa naman ang election, we have time.
The fact is Noynoy is one of the most sought after politicians.. while the others clamor for coverage, Noynoy has to reject it.
I don’t think you guys ganging up on Basilio is fair at all.. you accuse them of acting like jackasses… but guys, look at you… you’re all acting the same way.
Like I said, I’m not a Noynoy fan, I’m caught between Gibo and Noynoy like a lot of people, but I really don’t want to be known as a Gibo supporter (at least online) because most of the pro-Gibo entries and comments are so immature… guys you’re not doing Gibo a favor at all. You’re all acting in such a way that makes what the others have labeled you, “Gibbons” (meaning monkey), completely justifiable.
Matalino nga si Gibo, pero… ang supporters niya…. ???
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bp Reply:
January 9th, 2010 at 9:16 am
maybe,
nice spin on noynoy rejecting media coverage. it’s almost delusional. let’s call it for what it really is. for someone who wants to lead a country, noynoy’s failure to man up is really a big let down. he is insulting the voting public, really.
as for your gibo fascination, if you want to attack his supporters go to their confirmed hangouts and mount your attack there. also, here’s my position on the point you raised about stupid supporters. all candidates have them but noynoy has most of them, i’m sure deep down you’d agree.
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pinoybuzz Reply:
January 9th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Maybe,
Regarding this:
“I don’t think you guys ganging up on Basilio is fair at all.. you accuse them of acting like jackasses… but guys, look at you… you’re all acting the same way.”
Perhaps you didn’t read Basilio’s comment:
“Just a question, Pinoy Buzz? Aren’t you a gordon henchman? What are you doing in a Gibo blog? The fact that you have banded together to gang up on a single candidate shows that you see each other’s bosses as non-contenders in the election. I pity you, Farol. You’re supporting a candidate who has absolutely no hope of winning. It must be so frustrating. No wonder you’re commiserating with the gibo people. You’re in the same boat.”
And then he goes:
“Lastly, if you think that your hardwork is making large enough ripples in the grand scheme of things, you have a bloated sense of your importance. You provide great entertainment— like a worm who thinks he can take on a lion, and by lion I don’t mean Noynoy. I mean the entire movement that supports him.”
Sorry if the word jackass grates at to your gentle and sensitive nature, but I was just calling a jackass a jackass and it would only be offensive if that person didn’t wanted to admit he was a jackass or he is ashamed of being a jackass.
If you want a good discussion, I am all for it.
If you want to tell me that it’s rather bad to say that Noynoy chickened out, I would have admitted that saying so might have offended his supporters.
Yes, it’s a childish ploy but so is hiding behind your parent’s names and accomplishments when you’re a grown man.
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heard the dzbb debate at ayala de zobel, will post about it tomorrow.
noynoy, villar, gibo, and gordon all attended.
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Pagka hindi makapunta si Noynoy sa debate dahil takot na takot siya na malamn ng madla na he is infit and stupid to be president, maybe he can send his sister Kris na lang to debate fo him. LOL.
Is this the kind of president that our country needs. E puro stupid din pala yung mga supporters nya. eka nga puro Noynoy’s party is a party of “TRAPOS”.
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My wife and I are a first time voter. We were backing up Noynoy 100% as his supporter. We even traveled to go to his rally; however, when I saw his performance in the debate at DLSU, it made us think who this guy really is?and when we learned that he refused to join the debate on January 14, he just lost our vote! If you saw that debate or even listen to it, Noynoy sounded that he was a rookie, afraid, unsure of himself or an amateur performer. The other candidates sounded presidentiables, but not him. My wife and I are not stupid to vote for this guy. It may seem the unpopular candidate Dick Gordon has a more clearer vision of being the president. I believe if he wins, he can transform this country into a First World status. Gordon is the candidate that I will vote for.
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Hahaha! Condemning Noynoy because he failed to attend one forum? Has he not attended several others?
Poor Paul Farol and BP, hahanap at hahanap ng rason para siraan si Sen. Noy.
Sino ngayon ang narrow-minded?
Yeah it must really suck when your candidate’s languishing at the bottom.
Ang bababaw niyong lahat!!!
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bp Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Mark,
we’re not condemning noynoy. we’re just doing what we can to encourage or force him to provide more information about his plans for this country. dapat nga kayong mga pro-noynoy ang gumagawa nun. are you just all too mesmerized by his yellowness kaya nakalimutan na ninyo na malaking responsibilidad ang panguluhan?
can you please re-read your comment. that’s a good example for you of “kababawan.”
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bp Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 2:16 pm
mark,
btw, paul is for gordon. ako hanapin mo dito sa blog kung sino kandidato ko. pag nakita mo sabihin mo sa kin.
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pinoybuzz Reply:
January 14th, 2010 at 3:34 pm
BP,
Looks like you have a pet troll.
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Kita naman ng lahat. Ewan kung bakit nagpapatangay ang madlangbayan sa sentimiento.Si Noynoy laging nakangaga na parang iniisip kung tama yung na=memorize nya na statement. Pikon pa (di ba sa huling debate nya, minata si Gordo as tailender at minaliit ang survey). Panay motherhood ang statements at puro pa-iyak effect sa pag-recall lagi sa mama at papa. Showbiz na showbiz pa. Masama loob kay John Lloyd dahil di pumayag na gumanap na Noynoy. Pati mga kapatid na babae ang tanong nila ay “he doesn’t like Mom and Dad?” Ano ba??? Lumalabas kayong bunch of clueless spoiled brats. Na malamang ay tutoo naman. Hoy, gumising kayo. Hindi bibilin ng mga matatalinong botante ang mga gimik ng Kris-and-Boy show. Sumali ka sa mga debate. Magkaliwanagan kung may alam ka.
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Tapos na yung debate. Hindi nga talaga sumipot si Nyoy..
Si former president ramos pa yung nagtanong kung asan ang iba.. damn! hahahah
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NOYNOY’s ANGST
Nasaan ang iba? FVR asked everyone. At a time when the world wants to hear what the presidential aspirants have to say about wanting to lead this nation, Noynoy and a former president are conspicuously absent. Questions abound why they didn’t and their non-participation speaks volumes.
For a candidate concerned about his ratings in surveys and in apparent condemnation for an outgoing administration, he’ll refuse to take the oath of President from the appointed Chief Justice if elected. Assuming he’s elected. If all of that is what’s in the mind of Benigno Aquino III, we wonder what kind of a leader he’ll make.
Sorry to say – right now, Noynoy is NOT his father, nor the indomitable spirit we expected him to inherit from his great mom. Asking someone who’s reluctant to be president of the nation is too much even if we insist the time is now. Why? He’s not prepared. I can understand the clamor for social change as Cory envisioned, which reached a crescendo upon her demise, but we must be realistic as to whom we want to be the next leader for these trying times. The Presidency is not a joke; it’s outright bloody.
Greatness and exemplary leadership cannot be achieved overnight but by experience, hard work, understanding the nation’s ills and putting into gear the best needed solutions. Words and conviction of those who think he can, do not make the man; it takes action. A good track record also helps.
Let us relieve the burden we entrust upon Noynoy. He’ll make a good president, say in 6 to 12 years and I agree wholeheartedly. It takes time.
In choosing our next president, I’ll leave it you mga kababayans. We know a few of them are good, strong and responsible enough to get us out of the rut we’re in. Let’s vote wisely. Let’s stop the culture of negativism every time we cast our ballots; if naysayers honestly believe that candidate can’t win. Let’s forget the comebacking one, he had his chance. Thank you.
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